Triller’s S-1 submitting claims 550M customers, however its app installs fall far brief, new information reveals


TikTok competitor Triller is making ready to go public, however estimates from Apptopia name its self-reported person numbers into query.

Per Triller’s S-1 submitting, the brief type video app has had 550 million lifetime signups. However market intelligence agency Apptopia estimates that Triller has been downloaded simply 73.2 million instances since launch in 2015 — that’s 87% decrease than Triller’s personal stories. Apptopia’s information is simply inclusive of cellular app installs, which might means if Triller’s numbers are appropriate, the remaining deficit must come by way of internet signups.

Apptopia, a well-liked supply for app analytics, says that its estimates are 70 to 90% correct, on common. The corporate has a whole bunch of shoppers, together with Visa, Andreessen Horowitz, Coca-Cola, Goal, Zoom and others.

Reached for remark, Triller maintains its numbers are correct. However this isn’t the primary time its personal numbers have come into query.

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When Triller tried to go public by way of SPAC in 2021, Billboard reported that Triller claimed increased person numbers to the general public than it did to music rights holders. In a December 2019 press launch, Triller stated it had 26.5 million month-to-month lively customers, although sources instructed Billboard that its person base was truly half the dimensions; then, when Triller stated it had 50 million month-to-month lively customers, Billboard’s sources stated this quantity was truly nearer to 25 million.

Triller CEO Mike Lu stated on the time that “there isn’t a authorized definition of MAU/DAU.” (MAU and DAU are customary business metrics used to measure an app’s month-to-month or each day lively customers.)

“Triller’s worth is in monetizing customers, not MAU or DAU. Up to now, the press has had a tough time understanding this,” he instructed Billboard.

On the Google Play retailer, Triller’s obtain numbers additionally look comparatively low. Google Play signifies that Triller has over 10 million downloads. This might imply that the app has been downloaded wherever between 10 and 50 million instances (Google Play has badges for 10+ million downloads and 50+ million, however no designations in between).

Triller has had a number of more unusual authorized dalliances all through its existence, past simply debates over person numbers. In the previous few years, Triller confronted particular person authorized actions from Sony Music, Common Music Group and Timbaland and Swizz Beatz, all of whom accused Triller of owing them thousands and thousands of {dollars} in missed funds. Within the case of the UMG dispute, Lu described it as “a nasty ‘Punk’d’ episode.” The corporate was additionally present in a Washington Put up report back to have missed many funds to creators in a Triller incubator program.

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Apptopia’s estimates additionally discovered that customers spend, on common, about 11 minutes per thirty days per gadget on Triller. Triller didn’t affirm the determine, however a spokesperson instructed TechCrunch that it “shouldn’t be one thing that has any relevance to our enterprise mannequin.”

Per its S-1, Triller earned $47.7 million in income in 2022, but it surely has misplaced cash annually it’s operated. The corporate misplaced $195.6 million final 12 months, and in 2021, it misplaced $773.6 million.


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